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Re: Yön pimeydessä ja kirkkaassa päivänvalossa
« Reply #510 on: June 25, 2012, 23:54:33 »
Ei oo Chandlerin voittanutta, kaikella kunnioituksella Dame Agathaakin kohtaan.

Joo, harkitsin kyllä Chandlerin livauttamista listalle ja varmaan hän sinne olisi kuulunut. Nythän siellä on yhdellä hepulla kaksi kirjaa. Minulla oli 80-luvun lopulla intohimoinen Marlowe-kausi ja pidän edelleen. Kuten sanottu, TOP listat ovat teennäisiä.

"The way I see it, every life is a pile of good things and bad things. Hey. The good things don't always soften the bad things, but vice-versa, the bad things don't necessarily spoil the good things and make them unimportant." - The Eleventh Doctor

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Re: Yön pimeydessä ja kirkkaassa päivänvalossa
« Reply #511 on: June 25, 2012, 23:55:47 »
Mites noi ruotsalaiset?


Tunnustan, mulla jäi genre suurin piirtein Agathaan ja Chandleriin, joitakin haja-otoksia lukuun ottamatta. Paljonhan hyö kehuvat ruåttalaisiakin, olisiko sitten pohjoismaalisää mukana.
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Re: Yön pimeydessä ja kirkkaassa päivänvalossa
« Reply #512 on: June 25, 2012, 23:56:56 »
Mites noi ruotsalaiset?

Olen niitäkin lukenut, mutta en oikein ole jaksanut innostua. Mankellilla on pari hyvää jne. mutta jotenkin olen perinteisen dekkarin ystävä. Nämä vatsakkaat ahdistuneet svedupoliisit alkavat jossain vaiheessa ahdistaa.
"The way I see it, every life is a pile of good things and bad things. Hey. The good things don't always soften the bad things, but vice-versa, the bad things don't necessarily spoil the good things and make them unimportant." - The Eleventh Doctor

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Re: Yön pimeydessä ja kirkkaassa päivänvalossa
« Reply #513 on: June 25, 2012, 23:59:42 »
Ei oo Chandlerin voittanutta, kaikella kunnioituksella Dame Agathaakin kohtaan.

Joo, harkitsin kyllä Chandlerin livauttamista listalle ja varmaan hän sinne olisi kuulunut. Nythän siellä on yhdellä hepulla kaksi kirjaa. Minulla oli 80-luvun lopulla intohimoinen Marlowe-kausi ja pidän edelleen. Kuten sanottu, TOP listat ovat teennäisiä.

Onkohan kukaan koskaan oikeasti tajunnut Syvän unen juonta?  :o
"The way I see it, every life is a pile of good things and bad things. Hey. The good things don't always soften the bad things, but vice-versa, the bad things don't necessarily spoil the good things and make them unimportant." - The Eleventh Doctor

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Re: Yön pimeydessä ja kirkkaassa päivänvalossa
« Reply #514 on: June 26, 2012, 00:04:00 »
Ei oo Chandlerin voittanutta, kaikella kunnioituksella Dame Agathaakin kohtaan.

Joo, harkitsin kyllä Chandlerin livauttamista listalle ja varmaan hän sinne olisi kuulunut. Nythän siellä on yhdellä hepulla kaksi kirjaa. Minulla oli 80-luvun lopulla intohimoinen Marlowe-kausi ja pidän edelleen. Kuten sanottu, TOP listat ovat teennäisiä.

Onkohan kukaan koskaan oikeasti tajunnut Syvän unen juonta?  :o

Älä multa kysy, on vuosia siitä kun luin. Oliko siinä jotain epäselvää? Altmanin elokuvaversio on pikkuisen tuoreemmassa muistissa, kyllä uskoakseni ainakin Altman sen oli oivaltanut.
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Re: Yön pimeydessä ja kirkkaassa päivänvalossa
« Reply #515 on: June 26, 2012, 00:04:20 »
Olen niitäkin lukenut, mutta en oikein ole jaksanut innostua. Mankellilla on pari hyvää jne. mutta jotenkin olen perinteisen dekkarin ystävä. Nämä vatsakkaat ahdistuneet svedupoliisit alkavat jossain vaiheessa ahdistaa.

No joo. Wallander ja Sjöwall/Wahlöön Beck. On siellä paljon muutakin, Ruotsissa dekkarikentässä on melkoista syvyyttä ilmeisesti historiallisista syistä.

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Re: Yön pimeydessä ja kirkkaassa päivänvalossa
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« Reply #517 on: June 26, 2012, 00:12:38 »
Ei oo Chandlerin voittanutta, kaikella kunnioituksella Dame Agathaakin kohtaan.

Joo, harkitsin kyllä Chandlerin livauttamista listalle ja varmaan hän sinne olisi kuulunut. Nythän siellä on yhdellä hepulla kaksi kirjaa. Minulla oli 80-luvun lopulla intohimoinen Marlowe-kausi ja pidän edelleen. Kuten sanottu, TOP listat ovat teennäisiä.

Onkohan kukaan koskaan oikeasti tajunnut Syvän unen juonta?  :o

Älä multa kysy, on vuosia siitä kun luin. Oliko siinä jotain epäselvää? Altmanin elokuvaversio on pikkuisen tuoreemmassa muistissa, kyllä uskoakseni ainakin Altman sen oli oivaltanut.

No joo, se pääjuoni on varmaan aika selvä, mutta siellä välissä tapahtuu kaikenlaista sekavaa. Mutta ei sillä niin väliä ole, dialogi ja tunnelma ovat pistämättömät.

Howard Hawksin leffaversio (1946) pisti juonen aíka tavalla uusiksi, mutta leffa on muuten aika bueno. Altman teki leffan Pitkistä jäähyväisistä, ei Syvästä unesta.

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Re: Yön pimeydessä ja kirkkaassa päivänvalossa
« Reply #518 on: June 26, 2012, 00:14:28 »
Vain vajaat 60M katselukertaa:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSrAJsWvEIc&feature=related

Tuo on varmaan huijausta koko juttu. Eihän ruma keski-ikäinen nainen voi osata laulaa  ::)
"The way I see it, every life is a pile of good things and bad things. Hey. The good things don't always soften the bad things, but vice-versa, the bad things don't necessarily spoil the good things and make them unimportant." - The Eleventh Doctor

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Re: Yön pimeydessä ja kirkkaassa päivänvalossa
« Reply #520 on: June 26, 2012, 00:17:42 »

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Howard Hawksin leffaversio (1946) pisti juonen a­ka tavalla uusiksi, mutta leffa on muuten aika bueno. Altman teki leffan Pitkistä jäähyväisistä, ei Syvästä unesta.


Niinpä olikin. Minähän olen tulossa (myös) vanhuudenhöperöksi. Apuva, Dementia uhkaa.
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« Reply #521 on: June 26, 2012, 00:19:00 »

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Howard Hawksin leffaversio (1946) pisti juonen aíka tavalla uusiksi, mutta leffa on muuten aika bueno. Altman teki leffan Pitkistä jäähyväisistä, ei Syvästä unesta.


Niinpä olikin. Minähän olen tulossa (myös) vanhuudenhöperöksi. Apuva, Dementia uhkaa.

Soitto lähimmälle muistiklinikalle heti aamulla (jos vain muistat) voi viedä lähemmäs lopullista diagnoosia.
"The way I see it, every life is a pile of good things and bad things. Hey. The good things don't always soften the bad things, but vice-versa, the bad things don't necessarily spoil the good things and make them unimportant." - The Eleventh Doctor

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Re: Yön pimeydessä ja kirkkaassa päivänvalossa
« Reply #522 on: June 26, 2012, 00:21:19 »
Thacherismi oli alkumetreillään.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5UK40sSo8I

This is why events unnerve me
They find it all, a different story
Notice whom for wheels are turning
Turn again and turn towards this time
All she asks is the strength to hold me
Then again the same old story
Word will travel oh so quickly
Travel first and lean towards this time

I'll break them all, no mercy shown
Heaven knows, it's got to be this time
Watching her, these things she said
The times she cried
Too frail to wake this time

I'll take them down, no mercy shown
Heaven knows, it's got to be this time
Avenues all lined with trees
Picture me and then you start watching
Watching forever, forever
Watching love grow, forever
Let it be known, forever

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Re: Yön pimeydessä ja kirkkaassa päivänvalossa
« Reply #523 on: June 26, 2012, 00:42:15 »
Thacherismi oli alkumetreillään.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5UK40sSo8I

This is why events unnerve me
They find it all, a different story
Notice whom for wheels are turning
Turn again and turn towards this time
All she asks is the strength to hold me
Then again the same old story
Word will travel oh so quickly
Travel first and lean towards this time

I'll break them all, no mercy shown
Heaven knows, it's got to be this time
Watching her, these things she said
The times she cried
Too frail to wake this time

I'll take them down, no mercy shown
Heaven knows, it's got to be this time
Avenues all lined with trees
Picture me and then you start watching
Watching forever, forever
Watching love grow, forever
Let it be known, forever


Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds: Mercy Seat

It began when they come took me from my home
And put me in Dead Row,
Of which I am nearly wholly innocent, you know.
And I'll say it again
I..am..not..afraid..to..die.

I began to warm and chill
To objects and their fields,
A ragged cup, a twisted mop
The face of Jesus in my soup
Those sinister dinner meals
The meal trolley's wicked wheels
A hooked bone rising from my food
All things either good or ungood.

And the mercy seat is waiting
And I think my head is burning
And in a way I'm yearning
To be done with all this measuring of truth.
An eye for an eye
A tooth for a tooth
And anyway I told the truth
And I'm not afraid to die.

Interpret signs and catalogue
A blackened tooth, a scarlet fog.
The walls are bad. Black. Bottom kind.
They are sick breath at my hind
They are sick breath at my hind
They are sick breath at my hind
They are sick breath gathering at my hind

I hear stories from the chamber
How Christ was born into a manger
And like some ragged stranger
Died upon the cross
And might I say it seems so fitting in its way
He was a carpenter by trade
Or at least that's what I'm told

Like my good hand I
tatooed E.V.I.L. across it's brother's fist
That filthy five! They did nothing to challenge or resist.
In Heaven His throne is made of gold

The ark of his Testament is stowed
A throne from which I'm told
All history does unfold.
Down here it's made of wood and wire

And my body is on fire
And God is never far away.
Into the mercy seat I climb
My head is shaved, my head is wired

And like a moth that tries
To enter the bright eye
I go shuffling out of life
Just to hide in death awhile
And anyway I never lied.

My kill-hand is called E.V.I.L.
Wears a wedding band that's G.O.O.D.
`Tis a long-suffering shackle
Collaring all that rebel blood.

And the mercy seat is waiting
And I think my head is burning
And in a way I'm yearning
To be done with all this measuring of truth.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth
And anyway I told the truth
And I'm not afraid to die.

And the mercy seat is burning
And I think my head is glowing
And in a way I'm hoping
To be done with all this weighing up of truth.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth
And I've got nothing left to lose
And I'm not afraid to die.
And the mercy seat is glowing
And I think my head is smoking
And in a way I'm hoping
To be done with all this looks of disbelief.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth
And anyway there was no proof
Nor a motive why.

And the mercy seat is smoking
And I think my head is melting
And in a way I'm helping
To be done with all this twisted of the truth.
A lie for a lie
And a truth for a truth
And I've got nothing left to lose
And I'm not afraid to die.
And the mercy seat is melting
And I think my blood is boiling
And in a way I'm spoiling
All the fun with all this truth and consequence.

An eye for an eye
And a truth for a truth
And anyway I told the truth
And I'm not afraid to die.
And the mercy seat is waiting
And I think my head is burning
And in a way I'm yearning
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
A life for a life
And a truth for a truth
And anyway there was no proof
But I'm not afraid to tell a lie.

And the mercy seat is waiting
And I think my head is burning
And in a way I'm yearning
To be done with all this measuring of truth.
An eye for an eye
And a truth for a truth
And anyway I told the truth
But I'm afraid I told a lie.
Solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant.

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Re: Yön pimeydessä ja kirkkaassa päivänvalossa
« Reply #524 on: June 26, 2012, 00:49:04 »
Mies mustissa versioi.

Toinen hempeä balladi...

They call me The Wild Rose
But my name was Elisa Day
Why they call me it I do not know
For my name was Elisa Day

From the first day I saw her I knew she was the one
As she stared in my eyes and smiled
For her lips were the colour of the roses
They grew down the river, all bloody and wild

When he knocked on my door and entered the room
My trembling subsided in his sure embrace
He would be my first man, and with a careful hand
He wiped the tears that ran down my face


On the second day I brought her a flower
She was more beautiful than any woman I'd seen
I said, 'Do you know where the wild roses grow
So sweet and scarlet and free?'

On the second day he came with a single rose
Said: 'Will you give me your loss and your sorrow?'
I nodded my head, as I layed on the bed
He said, 'If I show you the roses will you follow?'

On the third day he took me to the river
He showed me the roses and we kissed
And the last thing I heard was a muttered word
As he stood smiling above me with a rock in his fist

On the last day I took her where the wild roses grow
And she lay on the bank, the wind light as a thief
As I kissed her goodbye, I said, 'All beauty must die'
And lent down and planted a rose between her teeth
Solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant.